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HomeMy WebLinkAboutIsle View Resort_39000990350000_Memos,Correspondences, File Notes_Bill Kalar Bob Green <bobgreen@i29.net> Monday, October 21, 2013 10:35 AM Bill Kalar RE: set back From: Sent: To: Subject: Bill, Yes, I went out on Friday to meet with my builder for the work starting next spring... I also talked with my neighbor who said you stopped by and did a readjustment. I thank you for coming out, and I agree with your new placement and it is very consistent with the neighbor's placement that was done earlier this spring. So, again, thanks for taking time to come out for the re-inspection. I do appreciate your doing that. Thanks, bob From: Bill Kalar rmailto:bkalar@co.ottertail.mn.us1 Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:19 AM To: Bob Green Subject: RE: set back Ur Hi Bob, As you may be aware, I stopped by your property on Friday, Oct. 18*'’. At that time, I relocated the stakes Mark Ronning (Inspector) had placed onsite earlier this month. As you will see, I believe the Ordinary High Water Level (OHWL) is at the current lake level and not in your rock rip rap as staked by Mark. I also believe that this difference is due to Mark using a temporary benchmark and me using the permanent gauge. Hopefully, this resolves your concerns. If not, please give me a call (218-998-8095). Bill Kalar Land and Resource Mgt. Otter Tail County 218-998-8095 From: Bob Green rmailto:bobqreen@i29.net1 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:36 PM To: Bill Kalar Subject: RE: set back Ok, sounds good. Our plans are to put the house back some but would like to build a deck somewhat around the original set back on the drawing... Appreciate your checking into it. thanks, bob From: Bill Kalar rmailto:bkalar(5ico.ottertail.mn.us1 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:21 PM To: Bob Green Subject: RE: set back Hi Bob, I will be in the Lake Lida area on Friday (late morning dependent upon previous commitments), Oct. 18th and could take a look at Mark's stake(s) then. Bill Kalar Land and Resource Mgt. 1 Otter Tail County 218-998-8095 •J From: Bob Green rmailto:bobareen(aii29.net1 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:31 PM To: Bill Kalar Subject: set back >.v : Hello Bill, We are in the demo mode at Isle View Resort as we are planning on building next spring out at the site. I requested a set back determination last week and Mark Ronning went out and made the marks. I talked with Mark yesterday on some questions about the stake location as I was somewhat surprised where 75 ft from the OHW was located... Mark had no prpbleifi asking for a recheck on this as I think it was not quite accurate... Here are my thoughts. I copied part of my original survey that was done in 03 or early 04 and attached it to this email.. I assume it is also on file in your office as Mark stated a letter was sent back in today's mail. What I find is that the OHW elevation of south Lida at that point was 1314.3 ft.(1912 Datum) The surveyors determination is the dotted line located just in front of the two front cabins on the lot. (hilited) I also marked the approx, locations of Mark's stakes on both ends of the lot... I had originally asked for one right next to the left building where I drew the X but he did not do that. Now, the current benchmark for OHW is still 1314.3 ft according the lake water level report that I printed off this rfiorning. It looks to me that there is.quite a difference between the two determinations... I would like to believe that the surveyors were right on in their determinations. So, please advise if we can re examine the staking... I can bring in the entire survey done back then... We did plenty of rip rapping a few years ago, but the water hardly made it to the bottom of the rip raps., the Mark determined OHW is in the rip rap., and I .don't think that is quite accurate... Please advise. Thanks. Bob Green Ps. The plat is called Greens Isle View Addition 2 Bill Kalar Bill Kalar Monday, October 21, 2013 10:19 AM 'Bob Green' RE: set back From: Sent: To: Subject: Hi Bob, As you may be aware, I stopped by your property on Friday, Oct. 18*'’. At that time, I relocated the stakes Mark Ronning (Inspector) had placed onsite earlier this month. As you will see, I believe the Ordinary High Water Level (OHWL) is at the current lake level and not in your rock rip rap as staked by Mark. I also believe that this difference is due to Mark using a temporary benchmark and me using the permanent gauge. Hopefully, this resolves your concerns. If not, please give me a call (218-998-8095). Bill Kalar Land and Resource Mgt. Otter Tail County 218-998-8095 From: Bob Green rmailto:bobqreen@i29.net1 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:36 PM To: Bill Kalar Subject: RE: set back Ok, sounds good. Our plans are to put the house back some but would like to build a deck somewhat around the original set back on the drawing... Appreciate your checking into it. thanks, bob From: Bill Kalar rmailto:bkalar(S)co.ottertail.mn.us1 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:21 PM To: Bob Green Subject: RE: set back Hi Bob, I will be in the Lake Lida area on Friday (late morning dependent upon previous commitments), Oct. 18th and could take a look at Mark's stake(s) then. Bill Kalar Land and Resource Mgt. Otter Tail County 218-998-8095 From: Bob Green fmailto:bobareen(gii29.net1 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:31 PM To: Bill Kalar Subject: set back Hello Bill, 1 , . « « V We are in the demo mode at Isle View Resort as we are planning on building next spring out at the site. I requested a set back determination last week and Mark Ronning went out and made the marks. 1 talked with Mark yesterday on some questions about the stake location as I was somewhat surprised where 75 ft from the OHW was located... Mark had no problem asking for a recheck on this as I think it was not quite accurate... Here are my thoughts. I copied part of my original survey that was done in 03 or early 04 and attached it to this email.. I assume it is also on file in your office as Mark stated a letter was sent back in today's mail. ■ What I find is that the OHW elevation of south Lida at that point was 1314.3 ft.(1912 Datum) The surveyors ;' determination is the dotted line located just in front of the two front cabins on the lot. (hilited) t.’ I also marked the approx, locations of Mark's stakes on both ends of the lot... I had originally asked for one right next to the left building where I drew the X but he did not do that. Now, the current benchmark for OHW is still 1314.3 ft according the lake water level report that I printed off this morning.. It looks to me that there is quite a difference between the two determinations... I would like to believe that the surveyors were right bn in their determinations. So, please advise if we can re examine the staking... I can bring in the entire survey^done back then... We did plenty of rip rapping a few years ago, but the water hardly made it to the bottom of the rip raps., the Mark determined OHW is in the rip rap., and I don'tthink that is quite accurate... Please advise. .• i Thanks. Bob Green Ps. The plat is called Greens Isle View Addition ! ■ r 7 ;■ 2 7., : ma,31Xa '^ ., __ .. is'[ . c>w^ ^^X^|s--4i .. - ..'«-Vi^.,-....,(CA^<e^ H^X?, ^ J^t^4i<?'&^'l] ......... . . C. SjsSiMa^ . J^ y ^h .... . ix>g'.. . - ^ M_ .Alil..Di.. ... . ^ . ... 4._ ..^^'v-- 1 i .:. 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For additional benchmark information please refer to Anna Lake listing. 56-328LITTLE MC DONALD OHWL: 1355.60 Bench Location: Highest Recorded: 1358.79 Bench Elevation: 1362.03 SW SW NE Section 11 Township 136 Range 40 Bench Description: Top of 2"** concrete step up from bottom next to railing post (steps are from cabin down to lake). 1359.40 Range 40 Bench Description: Horizontal 60d spike 1.1’ above ground in S/ SW side of P. P. approx. 55’ W of bituminous boat ramp & 60’ N of Co. Rd 34. 1364.35 Bench Elevation: Township 136Section 10Bench Location:SE SE SW Bench Elevation: Township 136 Range 40Bench Location: Bench Description: Found 2012 for Gage Run use with prior permision. Top of SW comer of bottom concrete step from bricked deck at back door of private residence, 37840 N. Little McDonald Drive, Frazee. SE SE SW Section 3 56-142LITTLE PINE OHWL: 1334.2 Gauge: 2.91 Gauge Location: Highest Recorded: 1335.78 Permanent Gauge: 1331.29 NW SE NW NE Section 1 Township 136 Right upstream abutment of outlet dam Range 39 Permanent Gauge: 1322.84 NE SE NE NE Section 3 Township 136 Pillar under CR 51 bridge at Mud Lake inlet Bench Elevation: 1337.26 Gauge: 1.36 Gauge Location:Range 39 Bench Location: SE NW SE Section 1 Township 136 Bench Description: Chiseled square on Lt. DS abut of Little Pine Lake outlet dam Range 39 Page 22 of 54 5/6/2013 V \ ) 28.63 \ 10.30 ' I/\ Vx/-t < . . r '• /A V' <''k ' V ; \ * k Bill Kalar Bob Green <bobgreen@i29.net> Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:36 PM Bill Kalar RE: set back From: Sent: To: Subject: Ok, sounds good. Our plans are to put the house back some but would like to build a deck somewhat around the original set back on the drawing... Appreciate your checking into it. thanks, bob From: Bill Kalar rmailto:bkalar@co.ottertail.mn.us1 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:21 PM To: Bob Green Subject: RE: set back Hi Bob, I will be in the Lake Lida area on Friday (late morning dependent upon previous commitments), Oct. 18th and could take a look at Mark's stake(s) then. Bill Kalar Land and Resource Mgt. Otter Tail County 218-998-8095 From: Bob Green rmailto:bobareen(a)i29.net1 Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:31 PM To: Bill Kalar Subject: set back Hello Bill We are in the demo mode at Isle View Resort as we are planning on building next spring out at the site. I requested a set back determination last week and Mark Ronning went out and made the marks. I talked with Mark yesterday on some questions about the stake location as I was somewhat surprised where 75 ft from the OHW was located... Mark had no problem asking for a recheck on this as I think it was not quite accurate... Here are my thoughts. I copied part of my original survey that was done in 03 or early 04 and attached it to this email.. I assume it is also on file in your office as Mark stated a letter was sent back in today's mail. What I find is that the OHW elevation of south Lida at that point was 1314.3 ft.(1912 Datum) The surveyors determination is the dotted line located just in front of the two front cabins on the lot. (hilited) I also marked the approx, locations of Mark's stakes on both ends of the lot... I had originally asked for one right next to the left building where I drew the X but he did not do that. Now, the current benchmark for OHW is still 1314.3 ft according the lake water level report that I printed off this morning. 1 ■4 %It looks to me that there is quite a difference between the two determinations... I would like to believe that the surveyors were right on in their determinations. So, please advise if we can re examine the staking... I can bring in the entire survey done back then... We did plenty of rip rapping a few years ago, but the water hardly made it to the bottom of the rip raps., the Mark determined OHW is in the rip rap., and I don't think that is quite accurate... Please advise. Thanks. Bob Green Ps. The plat is called Greens Isle View Addition 2 Bill Kalar Bob Green <bobgreen@i29.net> Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:31 PM Bill Kalar set back ~OT8A8n001F.PDF From: Sent: To: Subject: Attachments: Hello Bill, We are in the demo mode at Isle View Resort as we are planning on building next spring out at the site. I requested a set back determination last week and Mark Ronning went out and made the marks. I talked with Mark yesterday on some questions about the stake location as I was somewhat surprised where 75 ft from the OHW was located... Mark had no problem asking for a recheck on this as I think it was not quite accurate... Here are my thoughts. I copied part of my original survey that was done in 03 or early 04 and attached it to this email.. I assume it is also on file in your office as Mark stated a letter was sent back in today's mail. What I find is that the OHW elevation of south Lida at that point was 1314.3 ft.(1912 Datum) The surveyors determination is the dotted line located just in front of the two front cabins on the lot. (hilited) I also marked the approx, locations of Mark's stakes on both ends of the lot... I had originally asked for one right next to the left building where I drew the X but he did not do that. Now, the current benchmark for OHW is still 1314.3 ft according the lake water level report that I printed off this morning. It looks to me that there is quite a difference between the two determinations... I would like to believe that the surveyors were right on in their determinations. So, please advise if we can re examine the staking... I can bring in the entire survey done back then... We did plenty of rip rapping a few years ago, but the water hardly made it to the bottom of the rip raps., the Mark determined OHW is in the rip rap., and I don't think that is quite accurate... Please advise. Thanks. Bob Green Ps. The plat is called Greens Isle View Addition 1 i i & FILE MEMO & 3 ^ OOP ^ 90 3^c>u> o LAKE OR RIVER NAME & NO. 3///^ PARCEL # * * jsu♦ ♦ ♦ ♦♦ ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦ /:j,: /,:-L&R OfficialDate Action/Comments a>-(3c'{/, i/ f- 3 ^15. /^ / / f ■ 1^3 !rJ ^/V / ^ // 3^f [/1 c-(—P- ^^ p/V? S -ip4tH ( ^<rf 3 ^ C'iL3 ]. /3fhL( nr1 S^ of^/'To /?gf L/C t7>>'/ 3S/?r. \-Tx-V J c: ~f) r TTc ^Cir,Sd^. /3 /2-o// B^7i>r(- ’Tki. ^31 ^>/j/^// T/i> Date L&R Official Action/Comments. Date L&R Official. Action/Com ments. L&R OfficialDate Action/Comments. L&R OfficialDate Action/Comments. L&R OfTicialDate. Action/Comments. L&R OfficialDate Action/Comments. ✓O/ v'. •C3 S a",c-^ i:€.\c6 SETBACK r S'I S I Q_ V ' IvjU ^Q-Sod- 0 i4 CA C: ^ <ly s o - V-^ £ ^ ■' lS^3o I‘^0S'> -({^Q I i ^ <9 -J£i_ 0<5 S'\r^Oc\If\ rv75-uw:^ erO''- ^ X /2.O0 /Sc^Y ^ru T7 A O £> ^ 5 -ho ft. x) st"( coib'm r\^ ^ ^o<bo X'SS/ ■>io y 8. 4*0 ^OD ^^0 3^( Scj4i“. OTTER TAIL COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH SUB OFFICE 222 2nd AVENUE S.E. PERHAM, MINNESOTA 56573 218-346-3175 MAIN OFFICE OTTER TAIL COUNTY COURTHOUSE FERGUS FALLS, MINNESOTA 56537 218-739-2271 February 1991 Licensed Recreational Campgrounds and ResortsTO: Doug Johnson, R.S.FROM: New Construction Plan ReviewRE: Consultation with the Shoreland Management Office has resulted In the following policy concerning remodeling or new construction at a resort or recreational campground. Effective February 1, 1991, prior to the Shoreland Management Office issuing the required permit, you will need to provide them with a complete plan review form from the Health Department. (Copy Enclosed). The addition of permanent rooms and screened porches to recreational vehicles Is not consistent with the Otter Tall County Recreational Campground Ordinance, however this construction has been permitted by the Shoreland Management Office. This policy Interpretation error has resulted In recreational camping vehicles being altered to the extent that tliey no longer meet the definition of a recreational camping vehicle. (Copies Enclosed). The existing construction will be allowed to remain as Is and will be evaluated by the County Health Department on an Individual basis during routine Inspections. This Department will work with the campground owners In an effort to bring these structures Into compliance with current regulations. Such structures may need to be reclassified as cabin instead of a recreational vehicle.a The construction of permanent accessory structures on recreational ^ camping sices will no longer be permitted. Any temporary accessory structure such as attached awnings, carports or Individual storage facilities and accessory structures on manufactured home sites must meet all set back requirements of the County Manufactured Home Park and Recreational Camping Area Ordinance. If you should have any questions regarding this matter please feel free to contact me at 218-739-2271, Ext. 290. cc: Wally Senyk cc: Shoreland Management Office